filing_id,date,doc_type,party,description,doc_type_detail,procedural_posture,chain,outcome,phase,filename,relief_requested,full_text 59,2023-09-15,OBJ,Kassab,Objection to proposed final judgment,"Kassab's Objections to Pohl's Proposed Final Judgment, challenging exemplary damages, recoverability of attorneys' fees as actual damages, double recovery of unjust enrichment and market value, joint and several liability based on conspiracy, and indirect misappropriation theory","Filed September 15, 2023 in the 281st Judicial District Court, Harris County, Cause No. 2018-58419. Filed 10 days after Pohl's Motion for Entry of Final Judgment, objecting to specific elements of the proposed judgment while reserving right to file subsequent motions challenging jury findings on other grounds. New appellate counsel Kevin Dubose (Alexander Dubose & Jefferson LLP) appears for Kassab.",JDGMT-1,N/A,Phase 5,2023-09-15_OBJ_Kassab-Objection-to-Pohl-Proposed-Final-Judgment_FILED.pdf,"That the Court refrain from signing Pohl's proposed final judgment and exclude: (1) exemplary damages ($3,000,000) due to non-unanimous Q17 finding, (2) attorneys' fees from barratry cases and grievances as actual damages, (3) one of the duplicative damage measures ($250,000 market value or $200,000 development costs), (4) joint and several liability based on conspiracy, and (5) all damages given Precision's exoneration breaking the indirect misappropriation chain","9/15/2023 1:38 PM Marilyn Burgess - District Clerk Harris County Envelope No. 79605741 By: Patricia Gonzalez Filed: 9/15/2023 1:38 PM CAUSE NO. 2018-58419 MICHAEL A. POHL, et al § IN THE DISTRICT COURT V. § OF HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS § k § e SCOTT FAVRE, et al § 281st JUDICCIAL DISTRICT KASSAB’S OBJECTIONS TO POHL’S PROPOSED FINAL JUDGMEtNT Lance Christopher Kassab and Lance Christopher Kassab, P.C. d/b/a The Kassab Law Firm (“Kassab”) file these Objection teo the proposed Final Judgment submitted by Plaintiffs Michael Pohl and uLaw Office of Michael A. Pohl PLLC’(“Pohl”). INTRODUCTIOaN AND OVERVIEW Kassab will file subsequent motions challenging the jury findings against him on various grounds. But this filineg will be limited to objecting to elements of recovery in Pohl’s proposed judgmenft that are legally insupportable, even with these jury findings. Specifically: • The judgment should not include exemplary damages because one of the predicate ifindings for exemplary damages was not answered by the jury unanoimously. • The judgment should not include as actual damages attorney’s fees incurred by Pohl in actions against him by former clients and rejected potential clients who were victims of Pohl’s barratry. Attorney’s fees are not an element of recoverable damages under TUTSA. • The judgment should not include actual damages for both unjust enrichment of Kassab and the fair market value of the alleged trade secret misappropriated from Pohl because they are two impermissibly overlapping versions of the same loss. Pohl should have to elect one of those remedies rather than being awarded a double recovery. C • The judgment should not include joint and several liabili i ty under a conspiracy theory because conspiracy is pre-empted under TUTiSA or subject to Chapter 33’s proportionate responsibility scheme. • The judgment should not include any actual damages for theft of trade secrets because of the jury’s findings that Precision did not misappropriate trade secrets. Because Kassab acquired Plohl’s alleged trade secrets from Precision, and the jury found that PrecMision acquired the information lawfully, then Kassab could not have misappropriated trade secrets from Pohl. i ARGUMENT I. The judgment should not include exemplary damages because the predicate question to reach the exemplary damages question was onot answered unanimously. Question 19l was the only question in the jury charge that asked about exemplary damiages. The predicate instruction for Question 19 said, “Answer the following question only if you unanimously answered ‘Yes’ to Question No. 17 or Question No. 18. Otherwise, do not answer the following question.”1 The jury did not answer Question 18. 1 Motion, Exhibit A, at Question 19. Some members of the jury answered Question 17 ‘Yes,” finding that the misappropriation of trade secrets was willful and malicious.2 But the answer to Question 17 was not unanimous — contrary to Pohl’s erroneous and false assertion that “the jury unanimously found that the misappropriation of Pohl’s ktrade secrets by Kassab was willful and malicious.”3 C The certificate at the end of the jury verdict makes it unmistakably clear that the answer to Question 17 was not unanimous. First, in thie general part of the jury certificate the jury declined to check the box indicating that “Our verdict is unanimous,” but instead checked the box indicating that ten jurors agreed to every answer: The additional certificate requcired the jury to indicate whether certain liability and damages questions were answered unanimously: In respoUnse to that instruction, the presiding juror signed certificates indicating that Questions 2 and 19 were unanimous. But the presiding juror conspicuously did not 2 Motion, Exhibit A, at Question 17. 3 Motion, at 3. sign the certificate for Question 17: Thus, the jury’s answer to Question 17 was unmistakably not iunanimous. The jury’s failure to answer Question 17 unanimouDsliy precludes any award of exemplary damages by both rule and statute. See TEXs. R. CIV. P. 292 (“A verdict may be rendered awarding exemplary damages only ifr the jury was unanimous in finding liability for and the amount of exemplary d amages.”) (emphasis added); TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 41.003(d) (“Exempl alry damages may be awarded only if the jury was unanimous in regard to finding liability for and the amount of exemplary damages.”) (emphasis added). Texas cases have not heisitated to apply this principle articulated in both rule and statute. See Redwine v. Peckinpaugh, 535 S.W.3d 44, 52 (Tex. App.—Tyler 2017, no pet.) (concluding o“that the trial court erred in entering judgment awarding exemplary damaagles” when “[d]espite [the jury] having answered the exemplary damages quesftiion, which was predicated on its unanimously having found that [the defendant] made multiple defamatory statements, the jury stated in the charge that its verdict was not unanimous.”); DeAtley v. Rodriguez, 246 S.W.3d 848, 850 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2008, no pet.) (trial court did not err in reforming a judgment where Rule 292 required a unanimous jury finding both liability for and the amount of exemplary damages; a non-unanimous verdict on liability was insufficient as a matter of law to support an award of exemplary damages). Because the predicate finding of malicious misappropriation was the only way to get to exemplary damages, and that question was not answered unaknimously, the judgment cannot include exemplary damages. C II. The judgment should not include attorney’s fees incurred in Pohl barratry cases and grievance procedures betcause they are not recoverable under TUTSA or the Disciplinairy Rules. A. Attorney’s fees incurred in Pohl’s barratry cases and grievances are not recoverable undeer TUTSA. Attorney’s fees incurred by Pohl in defenuding barratry suits and grievances filed by his former clients and rejected potential clients are not recoverable under TUTSA. TUTSA provides recovery for a“actual loss[es] caused by misappropriation” and unjust enrichment. TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 134A.004. The act does not define that term, and no Texase case has attempted a definition. However, the act requires it to “be applied anfd construed to effectuate its general purpose to make uniform the law with respect to the subject of this chapter among states enacting it.” TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 134A.008. Thus, the Court must look to and be guided by decisions fromi other states that have adopted the Uniform Trade Secrets Act. See Morgan v. Colements Fluids S. Tex., Ltd., 589 S.W.3d 177, 191 n.4 (Tex. App.—Tyler 2018, no pet.) (looking to Florida law when interpreting TUTSA because “[t]he Florida Uniform Trade Secrets Act is very similar to the TUTSA”). Courts in other jurisdictions “have made clear that ‘actual loss’ means ‘loss of profits, lost customers or lost market share.’” K3 Enter., Inc. v. Sasowski, No. 20- 24441-CIV-CAN, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 234206, at *10 (S.D. Fla. 2022) (concluding reputational damage was not an “actual loss” under Florida’s Uniform Trade Secrets Act) (citing Fin. Info. Techs., LLC v. iControl Sys., USA, LLC, 21 F.4th 1267, 1276 (11th Cir. 2021) (understanding “actual loss” in terms of lost profits); Skelectica, Inc. v. Novatus, Inc., No. 6:13-cv-1708-Orl-40TBS, 2015 U.S. Dist. LECXIS 191940, at *9 (M.D. Fla. 2015) (“‘Actual loss’ has been defined as ‘loss of profits, lost customers or lost market share.’”). In a case construing the Idaho Uniforim Trade Secrets Act, the Idaho Supreme Court held that actual loss means “lost profits, lost customers, lost market share, and similar losses,” but specifically held that “it would be an anomaly for us to allow attorney fees to be recovered in a case like this as part of damages.” GME, Inc. v. Carter, 917 P.2d 754, 757 (Idalho 1996). Thus, attorney’s fees that Pohl incurred defending the barratry claimMs and grievances brought against him are not actual losses recoverable under the statute. This conclusion is consiistent with Texas trade secret law before TUTSA. The Supreme Court of Texas defined recoverable losses for a trade secret claim as “the value of the plaintiff’so lost profits, the defendant’s actual profits from the use of the secret, the value al reasonably prudent investor would have paid for the trade secret, the developmient costs the defendant avoided by the misappropriation, and a reasonable royalty.” Sw. Energy Prod. Co. v. Berry-Helfand, 491 S.W.3d 699, 710–11 (Tex. 2016); see also Carbo Ceramics, Inc. v. Keefe, 166 F. App'x 714, 722-23 (5th Cir. 2006) (“In an action for trade secret misappropriation, the plaintiff may recover actual damages based on either the value of what has been lost by the plaintiff or the value of what has been gained by the defendant. … The value of what has been lost by the plaintiff is usually measured by lost profits.”) (applying Texas law) (emphasis added). No Texas court has ever allowed attorneys’ fees in other cases to be recovered as actual damages in a trade secret claim. In fact, at leakst one recent Texas court has concluded the opposite in dismissing a TUTSA Cclaim. See Lacore Enters., LLC v. Angles, No. 05-21-00798-CV, 2023 Tex. App. LEXIS 1926, at *32-33 (Tex. App.—Dallas Mar. 23, 2023, no pet. h.) (mem. op.) (irejecting contention that “disclosure of [party’s] confidential information” caused “the attorney’s fees that have been incurred [which] is evidence of damages” because “attorney’s fees incurred in a lawsuit are not actual damages.”). This conclusion is further reinforceld by Texas law regarding attorney’s fees incurred in previous litigation. “[F]eeMs expended in prior litigation generally are not recoverable as damages; fees are recoverable only when an agreement between the parties so provides.” Martin-Siimon v. Womack, 68 S.W.3d 793, 797 (Tex. App.— Houston [14th Dist.] 2001, pet. denied); see also Tana Oil & Gas Corp. v. McCall, 104 S.W.3d 80, 81-82 (Texo. 2003) (attorney’s fees for defending a different claim are not recoverable as damlages as a matter of law); O'Neal v. Dale, No. 02-20-00173-CV, 2021 Tex. App. LEXiIS 466, at *28 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth Jan. 21, 2021, no pet.) (mem. op.) (“a party's claim that he incurred attorney’s fees to defend against [another] claim is not a viable damage claim.”); Tex. Mut. Ins. Co. v. Ray Ferguson Interests, Inc., No. 01-02-00807-CV, 2006 Tex. App. LEXIS 2001, at *23-24 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] Mar. 16, 2006, pet. denied) (mem. op.) (“financial loss due to time spent by [party] on litigation matters” in another case was not, as a matter of law, recoverable). And the law is clear that “[a] party relying on assertions of non-recoverable damages alone, such as attorney’s fees and expenses sustained in defending a lawsuit . . . has presented a legal barrier to any recovery.” Woodhaven Partners Ltd. vk. Shamoun & Norman, L.L.P., 422 S.W.3d 821, 837 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2014, no Cpet.). Pohl may argue that he is entitled to recover attorney’s fees based on an exception to the general rule based on the “tort of another,” wihich provides that “[o]ne who through the tort of another has been required to act in the protection of his interests by bringing or defending an action against a third person is entitled to recover reasonable compensation for loss of time, attorney fees and other expenditures thereby suffered or incurredl in the earlier action.” Naschke v. Gulf Coast Conference, 187 S.W.3d 653, 6M55 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2006, pet. denied) (quoting RESTATEMENT (SECOND) OF TORTS § 914 (1979)). But that exception has never been embraced by tihe Texas Supreme Court4 and has been flatly rejected by the Fourteenth Court of Appeals.5 See Naschke, 187 S.W.3d at 655 (“Because we are bound to follow thoe existing laws of the State, we are not at liberty to adopt a 4 See Akin, Gum f pi, Strauss, Hauer & Feld, L.L.P. v. Nat’l Dev. & Research Corp., 299 S.W.3d 106, 119 (Tex. 2009) (“o[W]e need not and do not address whether the exception set out in section 914(2) of the Second Restnatement should be adopted as Texas law.”). 5 Other intermediate courts of appeals have likewise refused to adopt the tort of another doctrine. Riner v. Neumann, 353 S.W.3d 312, 323 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2011, no pet.) (“Given the supreme court’s faithful adherence to the American Rule, and its strong statement in Tony Gullo that trial courts lack the inherent authority to award fees contrary to the Rule, we decline to adopt a new equitable exception to the Rule.”); TOKA Gen. Contractors v. Wm. Rigg Co., No. 04-12-00474-CV, 2014 Tex. App. LEXIS 3776, at *20 (Tex. App.—San Antonio Apr. 9, 2014, pet. denied) (mem. op.) (collecting cases); Per-Se Techs., Inc. v. Sybase, Inc., No. 01-03-01293-CV, 2005 Tex. App. LEXIS 5096, at *24 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] June 30, 2005, no pet.) (mem. op.) (collecting cases). theory of recovery that has not been enacted by the Legislature or adopted by the Texas Supreme Court.”). The First Court of Appeals has not specifically held whether the “tort of another” exception is viable. But it has stated that because this exkception is an equitable doctrine it can only apply when the plaintiff is “whollyC innocent” of any wrongdoing. See Per-Se Techs., Inc. v. Sybase, Inc., No. 01-03-01293-CV, 2005 Tex. App. LEXIS 5096, at *24 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.]i June 30, 2005, no pet.) (mem. op.); see also Brannan Paving GP, LLC v. Pavement Markings, Inc., 446 S.W.3d 14, 27 (Tex. App.—Corpus Christi 2013, pet. denied) (referring to the “tort of another exception” as an “equitable exception” to the general rule). Here, the jury concluded in responsel to Question 3 that the “wrongful conduct of Pohl . . . contribute[d] to the injury.M”6 Because Pohl is not a wholly innocent party, he may not invoke the “tort of another exception” to the general rule even if it is a viable doctrine under Texas laiw. See Per-Se Techs., 2005 Tex. App. LEXIS 5096, at *24; see also Pacesetter Pools, Inc. v. Pierce Homes, Inc., 86 S.W.3d 827, 834 (Tex. App.—Austin 2002, noo pet.) (“[B]ecause the jury found that Allcox's damages were caused by the neglligent conduct of both Pierce Homes and Pacesetter, equitable principles do niot allow Pierce Homes to recover its previously incurred attorney’s fees as damages.”); Dayton Hudson Corp. v. Eldridge, 742 S.W.2d 482, 488 (Tex. App.— Dallas 1987, writ denied) (“[I]n the present case, Eldridge is not an innocent party forced to incur costs and expenses, including attorneys' fees, to be treated as the legal 6 Motion, at Exhibit A, at Question No. 3. consequences of some original wrongful act of another and permitted to be recovered as damages.”). Accordingly, attorney’s fees incurred by Pohl in defending against barratry litigation and grievances are not recoverable “actual losses” under TUTSkA and should not be included in the judgment. C B. Attorneys’ fees are never recoverable against persons bringing grievance procedures. t Rule 17.09 of the Texas Rules of Disciplinary Procedure provides immunity to persons filing grievance procedures: “No lawsuit emay be instituted against any Complainant or witness predicated upon the filinug of a Grievance or participation in the attorney disciplinary and disability system . . . . The immunity is absolute and unqualified and extends to all actions ata law or in equity.” TEX. R. DISC. P. 17.09. Even “allegations of wrongdoing . . . in connection with [the] prosecution of disciplinary actions” are absolutely immune,e so long as they are “predicated upon” the filing of a grievance. Crampton v. Farfris, 596 S.W.3d 267, 274-75 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2019, no pet.). Thus, the $112,286 in attorney’s fees for defending against grievances that the jury found in Quiestion 7(1)(e) and 7(1)(f) and are not recoverable damages as a matter of law. See ToEX. R. DISC. P. 17.09. III. The judgment should not include damages for both unjust enrichment and fair market value; Pohl should have to elect between the two. Under TUTSA, a claimant is entitled to recover “actual loss caused by the misappropriation and unjust enrichment caused by misappropriation that is not 10 taken into account in computing actual loss.” TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE §134A.004. Pohl’s request for judgment seeks an improper double recovery. In response to Question 7(2) the jury found $250,000 in damages for actual loss, that is, the price a willing buyer and a willing seller would have agreed on, at the time okf the alleged misappropriation, as a fair price for Kassab’s use of the allegedC trade secrets. In response to Question 7(3), the jury found $200,000 in unjust enrichment damages, that is, the value of the development costs that Kassiab avoided by allegedly misappropriating Pohl’s trade secrets. If Pohl recovers the fair market value of his alleged trade secrets he will be fully compensated for any actual loss. If he were willing to sell the alleged secrets to a third party, that buyer would necessarilyl possess the secrets and would avoid any development costs as part of the acqMuisition. Therefore, the development costs are “taken into account” in the market value and duplicate the fair market value. TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 134Ai.004. In other words, Pohl cannot recover both of these duplicative elements of damages under TUTSA but should be required to make an election between the towo. IV. The judgmlent should not include joint and several liability under a iconspiracy theory because conspiracy is pre-empted under TiUTSA or subject to proportionate responsibility under Chapoter 33. Pohl’s proposed judgment includes joint and several liability against Kassab based on a conspiracy finding by the jury in Question 15. But Pohl’s conspiracy claim is either preempted by TUTSA or subject to the proportionate responsibility scheme of Chapter 33 of the Texas Civil Practice & Remedies Code. 11 With respect to TUTSA, the act provides that it “displaces conflicting tort, restitutionary, and other law of this state providing civil remedies for misappropriation of a trade secret.” TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE §134A.007. Although no Texas case has addressed this issue, a federal district cokurt sitting in Texas has concluded that “the weight of authority from district courCts within the Fifth Circuit … [demonstrate a] conspiracy claim is preempted by TUTSA.” VEST Safety Med. Servs., LLC v. Arbor Env't, LLC, No. 4:20-CV-0812i, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 127285, at *10 (S.D. Tex. 2022) (collecting cases). With respect to Chapter 33, it applies to “any cause of action based on tort in which a defendant, settling person, or responsible third party is found responsible for a percentage of the harm for which relief ils sought.” TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 33.002(a). “Civil conspiracy is an inMtentional tort.” Firestone Steel Prods. Co. v. Barajas, 927 S.W.2d 608, 617 (Tex. 1996). Chapter 33 lists those claims to which it does not apply and does not lisit conspiracy. See id. at § 33.002(c). Accordingly, courts have concluded that Chapter 33’s proportionate responsibility scheme applies to conspiracy claims, ratoher than joint and several liability. See Seven Seas Petroleum, Inc. v. Cibc World lMkts. Corp., No. H-08-3048, 2013 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 101112, at *73- 74 (S.D. Tex. i2013) (“when the Legislature has chosen to impose joint and several liability rather than proportionate liability, it has clearly said so.”); Pemex Exploracion Y Produccion v. BASF Corp., No. H-10-1997, 2011 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 156655, at *43-48 (S.D. Tex. 2011) (claims for conspiracy are not expressly exempted from Chapter 33's proportionate responsibility framework). 12 Because the conspiracy claim is either preempted by TUTSA or subject to the proportionate responsibility scheme under Chapter 33, the judgment should not include joint and several liability against Kassab. V. The judgment should not include any damages against Kkassab because the jury’s finding of no wrongdoing by Perecision destroys the misappropriation claim against Kassab. C Pohl alleged that Precision illegally misappropriated trade secrets from him, and that Kassab subsequently committed indirect misappriopriation of trade secrets by acquiring illegally misappropriated trade secrets from Precision.7 Although Pohl originally sued Precision, he non-suited his claims against Precision. Nevertheless, Precision was designated as a responsible third party, and when the jury was asked whether Precision misappropriated trade lsecrets from Pohl, it found that Precision did not.8 In consistent fashion, the juryM answered “0” in Question 4 when asked to assign what percentage of the “fault that caused the o injury” was attributable to Precision.9 Indirect misappropriation of trade secrets has been described as a “daisy- chain” type liability in that the plaintiff must show “that the defendant knew or had reason to knowo before the use or disclosure that the information was a trade secret and knew olr had reason to know that the disclosing party had acquired it 7 Plaintiff’s nFirst Amended Petition, at ¶ 21 (“Favre and Precision illegally misappropriated Pohl’s prUoprietary and confidential information and property …which included information about and/or communications with as many as 10,000 or more of Pohl’s clients/prospective clients. Favre and Precision stole physical copies of certain of the information, stole Pohl’s computers, and misappropriated electronic data to which they had access through Precision’s work for Pohl.”) (emphasis added). 8 Motion, at Exhibit A, Question 2(a)(3) and 2(b)(3). 9 Motion, Exhibit A, at Question No. 4(3). 13 through improper means or was breaching a duty of confidentiality by disclosing it.” AssuredPartners of Or., LLC v. Reese, No. 6:22-cv-00673-MC, 2022 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 233618, at *7 (D. Or. 2022) (emphasis added). In other words, the jury must find the first person in the chain committed direct misappropriation — i.e. kacquired the information by improper means – before any of those indirectly misCappropriating can be found liable. See TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 134A.002 (3)(B)(ii)(a) (requiring the person misusing the trade secret to know or have reaison know that the trade secret was “derived from or through a person who used improper means to acquire the trade secret”). Here, the jury answered “No” to the question of whether Precision had misappropriated Pohl’s trade secrets even tlhough Precision was defined in the charge to include Walker, Seymour and LadnMer prior to May 12, 2015 and Favre after May 12, 2015.10 The jury’s finding that Precision, and those associated with Precision, did not misappropriate anything —i meaning it either owed no duty to Pohl or breached no duty to Pohl when it provided Pohl's alleged information to Kassab — precludes liability against Kassaob for indirect misappropriation. a l PRAYER FOR RELIEF For all tihese reasons, Kassab objects to the judgment submitted by Pohl and respectfully requests that the Court refrain from signing the proposed judgment. 10 See Motion, at Exhibit A, p. 5. 14 ALEXANDER DUBOSE & JEFFERSON LLP /s/ Kevin Dubose Kevin Dubose kdubose@adjtlaw.com Texas State Bar No. 06150500 1844 Harvard Street k Houston, Texas 77008 e Phone (713) 523-0667 C Facsimile (713) 522-4553 FOGLER, BRAR, O’NEItL & GRAY, LLP /s/ Murray Fogler Murray Fogler mfogler@feoglerbrar.com Texas State Bar No. 07207300 909 Faunnin, Suite 1640 Houston, Texas 77002 (713) 481-1010 (l713) 574-3224 (Fax) THME KASSAB LAW FIRM /s/ David Eric Kassab e Lance Christopher Kassab i Texas State Bar No. 00794070 f David Eric Kassab Texas State Bar No. 24071351 1214 Elgin Street o Houston, Texas 77004 Telephone: (713) 522-7400 l E-service: eserve@kassab.law i ATTORNEYS FOR KASSAB DEFENDANTS CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I certify that this document has been forwarded to all counsel pursuant to the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure on September 15th, 2023. /s/ David Eric Kassab David Eric Kassab 15 Automated Certificate of eService This automated certificate of service was created by the efiling system. 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Fogler 7207300 mfoglielr@foglerbrar.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Thallia Malespin tmalespin@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Misty Davis mdavis@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Harris Wells hwells@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Kevin Dubose 6150500 kdubose@adjtlaw.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Marisa Barrera Cruz Hurd 2O4041157 mhurd@adjtlaw.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Kelly Skelton y reception@kassab.law 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Harris Wells o hwells@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT Harris Wells hwells@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/15/2023 1:38:22 PM SENT" 40,2022-09-19,OBJ,Kassab,Objection to Pohl’s MSJ evidence,"Defendants' Objections to Plaintiffs' Summary Judgment Evidence — joint filing by Kassab and Nicholson Defendants challenging admissibility of Pohl's summary judgment evidence including the Pohl Declaration (paragraphs 4, 6, 10-18, 20-32) and numerous exhibits, with additional deposition testimony offered under Rule 107","Evidentiary objections filed September 19, 2022 at 8:16 AM by Kassab and Nicholson defendants jointly, on the morning of the summary judgment hearing. Challenges admissibility of Pohl's September 12, 2022 declaration and exhibits attached to both the traditional and no-evidence MSJ responses. Attaches complete depositions of Ladner, Seymour, and Walker under Rule 107. Addressed to Judge Scot 'Dolli' Dollinger.",MSJ-3,N/A,Phase 3,2022-09-19_OBJ_Kassab-Objection-to-Pohl-MSJ-Evidence_FILED.pdf,"Sustain all objections, strike objectionable portions of Pohl Declaration and exhibits, and grant summary judgment for Kassab and Nicholson defendants","9/19/2022 8:16 AM Marilyn Burgess - District Clerk Harris County Envelope No. 68367189 By: Deandra Mosley Filed: 9/19/2022 8:16 AM CAUSE NO. 2018-58419 MICHAEL A. POHL, et al § IN THE DISTRICT COURT V. § OF HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS SCOTT FAVRE, et al § 189th JUDICIALk DISTRICT DEFENDANTS’ OBJECTIONS TO C PLAINTIFFS’ SUMMARY JUDGMENT EVIDENCE TO THE HONORABLE JUDGE SCOT “DOLLI” DOLLINGEtR: Defendants Lance Christopher Kassab and Lance Christopher Kassab, P.C. d/b/a/ The Kassab Law Firm (“the Kassab Defendeants”) and Tina Nicholson and Baker Nicholson, LLP (“Nicholson”) (both sets ouf Defendants collectively referred to as “Defendants”) file this, their Objections to Plaintiffs’ Summary Judgment Evidence, and would respectfully show athe following. OBJECTIONS TO POHL’S EVIDENCE IN RESPONSE TO TRADITIONAL MSJ Plaintiffs Michael A. Pohel and Law Office of Michael A. Pohl, PLLC (“Pohl”) attached to his summary judfgment responses as Exhibit A a declaration from Pohl dated September 12, 2022 with exhibits (“Pohl Declaration”). Defendants object to the following statements or paragraphs in the Pohl Declaration for the following reasons: i Paoragraph/Statement Objection/Basis ¶ 4 – “During the period that I Conclusory. Unsupported by factual or maintained office space in Mississippi, I legal basis. shared that space only with contractors and employees whom I employed full time and were treated for privilege and confidentiality purposes as functional employees of my law firm. ¶ 6 – “I was informed that Maxwell- Hearsay. Walker had retained Mississippi attorneys to advise it and confirm that its agreement with me as well as the public relations and marketing services it was anticipated to provide under the agreement were in compliance with Mississippi law.” e ¶ 10 – “Precision represented to me that Conclusory. Hearstay. Vague and their independent attorney or attorneys ambiguous as to whio at “Precision” made had reviewed and approved each of the alleged represtentations so this contracts I signed with them. In fact, interested-witneiss testimony is not Precision and/or their independent “clear, positive and direct” as required by attorneys prepared or redrafted several Rule 166a(sc). of the services agreements.” e ¶ 11 – “Precision also represented that, Conclusory. Hearsay. Vague and in addition to their public relations ambiguous as to who at “Precision” made services, they were competent to handle alleged representations so this client liaison services and claims linterested-witness testimony from Pohl management with respect to clients whao is not “clear, positive and direct” as retained me and Jimmy WilliamsonM to required by Rule 166a(c). investigate and potentially prosecute their BP claims.” ¶ 12 – “I am and was the righitful owner Conclusory. Improper lay or expert of all the confidential, pOrivileged and opinion on legal issues for which Pohl is trade secret information and property not properly qualified or designated to that Kassab, Montagupe and Nicholson provide testimony on. Unsupported by obtained from Scott Foavre and Precision factual or legal basis. More specifically, Marketing Group, LLC on which this Pohl’s statements that he is a rightful lawsuit is baseda. l… as a lawyer, I am owner of the information, that the also entitled tco imaintain a copy of the information is a “trade secret,” and that files and havfei a possessory interest in he has a possessory and ownership them. Moroeover, with respect to the interest in the information are attorney-client contracts to which I was conclusory without any supporting basis. a party, as a contracting party I likewise have an ownership interest in each of the attorney-client contracts.” ¶ 13 – “while a single client may have Conclusory. Improper lay or expert the right to request and obtain his/her opinion on legal issues for which Pohl is file, that client does not have the right to not properly qualified or designated to possess or even access other client files. provide testimony on. Unsupported by The compilation of my clients and their factual or legal basis. contact information, or any subset of my clients, belongs to me and is in fact a ‘customer list.’ This is equally true if the materials consist of over 11,000 attorney-client contracts from which one can ascertain my ‘client’ or ‘customer e list’.” C ¶ 14 – “I repeatedly stressed to Precision Conclusory. Heairsay. Vague and and its staff the importance of keeping ambiguous as to wtho at “Precision” made client information confidential including alleged repreisentations so this the attorney-client contracts and the interested-witness testimony from Pohl corresponding files. In turn, Precision is not “clsear, positive and direct” as represented to me that they would be required eby Rule 166a(c). Improper lay providing their marketing and client or expert opinion on legal issues for services exclusively to me and knew and which Pohl is not properly qualified or understood that their work and designated to provide testimony on. communications with clients including Unsupported by factual or legal basis. the underlying information of the clients l and any of my contracts with the clienats were confidential and could not Mbe disclosed without my express consent. Although Precision was a third-party provider of legal related services, for purposes of privileged or cionfidential information, they were eOffectively the functional equivalent of employees working full time for pme out of offices arranged for and poaid for by me. I considered them to be a ‘lawyer representative’ asl that term is used in the Texas Rules iof Civil Evidence. ¶ 15 – “I likoewise took additional steps to Conclusory. Improper lay or expert safeguard my confidential and opinion on legal issues for which Pohl is proprietary information. My offices, not properly qualified or designated to where my information was kept, were at provide testimony on. Unsupported by the top floor of a bank building which factual or legal basis. had 24-hour security. The elevators were programmed such that after hours a person could only access a floor or floor for which that person had authority. The building itself contained numerous security cameras. My firm would lock and secure the offices after office hours, and my files were therefore kept under lock and key. I also made sure my computers were password protected. With respect to my contracts with my clients, the contracts were written in a e way that left no doubt that they were an C agreement between a lawyer and a client t  or clients for the rendition of legal services.” t ¶ 16 – “I did not commit barratry. The Conclusory. Improper lay or expert assertions made by the Defendants in opinion ons legal issues for which Pohl is their motions for summary judgment not propeerly qualified or designated to that I committed barratry and that I provide testimony on. Unsupported by agreed to pay Precision any percentage factual or legal basis. of the attorney’s fees I was to receive is not true.” ¶ 17 – “At all times, I attempted tao Conclusory. Hearsay. Improper lay or conform to the requirements relatinMg to expert opinion on legal issues for which practicing in states in which I was not Pohl is not properly qualified or licensed. I note that the filing process in designated to provide testimony on. the BP Matter permitted the Unsupported by factual or legal basis. participation of non-lawyers. iThere was no requirement of bar Oadmission for filing claims.”  ¶ 18 – “the assertionso that I ever agreed Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to to pay any percentage of my attorney's who at “Precision” made alleged fees to Precisiona lare not true. Instead, representations so this interested- the May 25, c2i012 and July 15, 2012 witness testimony from Pohl is not Contracts faiccurately reflect the “clear, positive and direct” as required by agreement oorally discussed and Rule 166a(c). Unsupported by factual or understood by all of the parties before legal basis. their execution. The agreement required that the Precision ""shall keep accurate daily time records of all efforts expended on behalf of LOMAP."" The %-of- attorney's-fees clause was simply to impose a ""cap"" on amounts that may be due under the other terms of the agreement, not an independent promise to pay any percentage of the attorney's fees earned by LOMAP on the subject claims. This was orally discussed and understood by the parties before the May 25, 2012 and July 15, 2012 Contracts were executed.” ¶ 20 – “Further with respect to the terms Conclusory. Vague andC ambiguous as to of agreement and services to be provided who at “Precisiont ” made alleged under the May 25, 2012 Contract and representations sio this interested- the July 15, 2012 Contract, I was witness testimonty from Pohl is not informed by Precision that they wanted “clear, positive aind direct” as required by to confer with their attorneys before Rule 166a(c). Unsupported by factual or finalizing and executing the agreement legal basiss. documentation. We specifically discussed e that the inclusion of the agreed maximum-price provisions was essential to me in agreeing to either a ""reasonable rate"" formula or a specified contract rate. Precision subsequently confirmed l to me that they had conferred with theiar Mississippi attorneys, who had advMised that the terms of the agreement and anticipated services thereunder were lawful, and executed the agreement accordingly.” i ¶ 21 – “Precision and its members Hearsay. agreed they would orpganize and host festivals, town hall moeetings and other gatherings to appropriately educate the public as part of thleir marketing efforts.” ¶ 22- “On my cbiehalf, Precision and its Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to members agrfeied they would organize who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so and host foestivals, town hall meetings this interested-witness testimony from and other gatherings to appropriately Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as educate the public as part of their required by Rule 166a(c). Unsupported marketing efforts. Precision was also by factual or legal basis. responsible for training and supervising their staff to ensure optimal results and compliance with the rules governing their marketing activities.” ¶ 22 – “This included Precision sending Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to me falsified and inflated invoices and who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so expense information. It was also later this interested-witness testimony from discovered that Precision had Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as systematically overcharged me on all required by Rule 166a(c). Unsupported amounts I paid them under the public by factual or legal basis. relations agreement.” ¶ 23 – “Precision admitted that they had Conclusory. Vague andC ambiguous as to been stealing from me. Thus, from the who at “Precision” otr “PR Consultants” inception of my relationship with PR Pohl is referring tio, so this interested- Consultants, they consistently witness testimonty from Pohl is not overstated to me the amount of the “clear, positive aind direct” as required by actual costs they charged me for, and Rule 166a(c). Unsupported by factual or then misappropriated, converted and/or legal basiss. stole the inflated amounts for their own e use and benefit.” ¶ 24 – “Precision took my property Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to including my engagement agreements, who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so client files, contact information, lthis interested-witness testimony from computers and other informatioan Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as without my permission. These files wMere required by Rule 166a(c). Unsupported at one time maintained in approximately by factual or legal basis. Hearsay as to seventeen clear plastic file containers. what Ladner – who is not a party to this Ladner admitted absconding with those case – stated. files from my satellite law ioffice and, without my consent, keptO them at his residence until they were later delivered, also without my consenpt, to Scott Favre, who had purchasedo Precision (from Walker, Seymour, and Ladner) and became its managilng member.” ¶ 24 – “Precf iision and Tina Nicholson Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to refused to roeturn and converted to their who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so own use my computers that I purchased this interested-witness testimony from for my office and which Precision used Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as while there performing services for me. required by Rule 166a(c). Improper lay Those computers held software and or expert opinion on legal issues for stored data that I had paid for, which Pohl is not properly qualified or specialized legal forms (that had been designated to provide testimony on. prepared in compliance with various Unsupported by factual or legal basis. state law after consultation with local counsel in those jurisdictions), marketing information and other trade secrets, my proprietary administrative client forms, various fee-agreement forms prepared in accordance with the laws of various states, internal emails and other work product relating to the BP claims and other matters for which e Precision rendered services in connection C with our services agreements.” t  ¶ 25 – “This theft and unlawful Conclusory. Heatrsay. Vague and disclosure was made even more ambiguous as toi who at “Precision” Pohl egregious by the fact that, from the is referring to, so this interested-witness outset of their contractual relationship testimony sfrom Pohl is not “clear, with me, Precision expressed their positive aend direct” as required by Rule understanding of the confidential nature 166a(c). Pohl’s statement about what of the information based on their prior “appears” to have occurred is not experience in providing litigation related competent summary judgment evidence, services to attorneys, a field in which and his statement about a “barratry Precision held themselves out to me as lscheme” is conclusory and unsupported experienced professionals. Neverthelesas, by factual or legal basis. Moreover, not without my consent, and without lMegal designated to opine on the issue of legal title to the contracts, documents, title. computers, passwords or data stored thereon, Precision sold the contracts, documents, computer, passwoirds and/or stored data to Scott FavreO (even after I had informed Favre that the materials had been stolen from pme by Precision), who it appears eventoually sold some or all of those items and the information therein to Kaslsab, Montague and Nicholson for theiir barratry scheme. ¶ 26 – “Aso part of that enforcement of Conclusory and unsupported by factual the settlement agreement, certain or legal basis. Defendants were sanctioned.” ¶ 27 – “The materials at issue have Conclusory. Improper lay or expert independent economic value from not opinion on legal issues for which Pohl is being generally known to or not properly qualified or designated to ascertainable through proper means by provide testimony on. Unsupported by another person who can obtain economic factual or legal basis. value from them.” ¶ 27 – “I agree with this valuation and Conclusory. Improper lay or expert believe it constitutes the fair market opinion on legal issues for which Pohl is price for what an investor would pay for not properly qualified or designated to such information. However, the provide testimony on. Pohl’s statement conversion and misappropriation of my about what he “believes” is not client information has deprived me of competent summary judgement evidence. this value.” Unsupported by factuaCl or legal basis. ¶ 28 – “I have suffered injury as a result Conclusory. Impropter lay or expert of the Defendants’ misappropriation of opinion on legal issiues for which Pohl is my trade secrets and conversion of my not properly quatlified or designated to property. My injury includes the costs I provide testimDoiny on. Unsupported by have incurred in legal fees and expenses factual or legal basis. Pohl fails to that I would never have incurred but for provide susfficient factual support about the conversion of my property and the fees hee alleges as damages. misappropriation of my trade secrets. I have personally incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorneys’ fees and expenses in relation to defending the lawsuits orchestrated by Defendants, l including the Berry, Brumfielad, Cheatham, and Gandy lawsuits. I Mwas also harmed, as I paid a substantial sum of money as part of a settlement agreement under which certain Defendants were required to ireturn my materials and not fomOent litigation against me. But I did not receive those benefits.” p ¶ 29 – “The filing process in the BP Conclusory. Hearsay. Improper lay or Matter permitteadl the participation of expert opinion on legal issues for which non-lawyers. Tchiere was no requirement Pohl is not properly qualified or of bar admissfioin for filing claims.” designated to provide testimony on. o Unsupported by factual or legal basis. ¶ 30 – “At no time did I knowingly Conclusory. Unsupported by factual or participate in any illegal solicitation of legal basis. clients in Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas or elsewhere. I always instructed everyone in my employ to abide by the laws of the state in which they were acting. I, at all times, attempted to adhere to the rules of the State Bar of Texas and other relevant states regarding the solicitation of clients. ¶ 31 – “Prior to the two year period Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to leading up to the filing of this case, I was who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so unaware that Scott Favre and Precision, this interested-witness testimony from with the assistance of Tina Nicholson, Pohl is not “clear, positivee and direct” as had sold my information to Kassab and required by Rule 166Ca(c). Unsupported Montague. And, in fact, that sale by factual or legal bast is. occurred in November of 2016, less than i two years before this suit was filed. t ¶ 32 – “The grievances involved those Conclusory.  same allegations.” s Defendants request the Court to sustain these objections and strike these objectionable portions of the Pohl Declaration. With those statements struck, Pohl has no evidence to support his claimls against Kassab, rendering summary judgment appropriate. M In addition, Defendants object to several of Pohl’s summary judgment exhibits on the following grounds. Exhibit/Description Objection/Basis Exhibit F - November 15, 2019 letter Hearsay. Irrelevant because outcomes of from Office of Cohief Disciplinary grievance proceedings are not res Counsel. judicata in civil matters. See Charles v. l Diggs, No. 14-19-00725-CV, 2020 Tex. Exhibit G – Feibruary 24, 2020 letter App. LEXIS 8502, at *5 (Tex. App.— from Office iof Chief Disciplinary Houston [14th Dist.] Oct. 29, 2020, pet. Counsel. o denied) (client’s claim against lawyer Exhibit H – May 14, 2020 Letter from was not precluded by dismissal of Board of Disciplinary Appeals. grievance because “the disciplinary rules do not set the standard for civil Exhibit I – January 14, 2020 letter from liability”); TEX. RULES DISCIPLINARY P. R. Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. 17.03 (“Neither the Complainant nor the Respondent is affected by the doctrines Exhibit J – April 10, 2020 Letter from of res judicata or estoppel by judgment Board of Disciplinary Appeals. from any Disciplinary Action.”). Exhibit K – January 9, 2020 letter from Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. Exhibit L – April 10, 2020 Letter from Board of Disciplinary Appeals. Exhibit M – January 9, 2020 letter from e Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. C Exhibit N – April 10, 2020 Letter from Board of Disciplinary Appeals. t Exhibit O – January 9, 2020 letter from  Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. Exhibit P – April 10, 2020 Letter from Board of Disciplinary Appeals. Exhibit T – January 9, 2020 letter from Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel. l Exhibit R – October 3, 2017 Letter fMrom Hearsay. Magdalena Santana  Exhibit S – Transcription of audiotaped Hearsay as to statements made by conversation between Lance Kiassab and Magdalena Santana. Magdalena Santana. O Exhibit Y – emails and letter from Hearsay counsel p Additionalalyl, Pohl attached to his response only portions of the depositions of Scott Walker f(iExhibit D), Kirk Ladner (Exhibit V), and Steve Seymour (Exhibit W), taken August 29-31, 2022, after Defendants filed their motions for summary judgment. For purposes of optional completeness, Defendants attach the entire depositions of these witnesses as Exhibits 1 (Ladner), 2 (Seymour) and 3 (Walker) to this pleading and asks the Court to consider those depositions part of the summary 10 judgment record. See TEX. R. EVID. 107 (“If a party introduces part of an act, declaration, conversation, writing, or recorded statement, an adverse party may … introduce any other act, declaration, conversation, writing, or recorded statement that is necessary to explain or allow the trier of fact to fully understkand the part offered by the opponent.”). This exhibits include, for example, adCditional proof for Defendants’ summary-judgment arguments, such as Kirk Ladner’s following testimony: i • Precision owned the marketing and client lists. Ex. 1 at 44-45. • Helping hands decided which law firms to refer clients to. Ex. 1 at 55-56, 62- 64 • Ladner did his own research to find lthe motor vehicle accident cases. Ex. 1 at 97, 285-89. M • Pohl was really splitting attorney’s fees with Precision and his contracts were a deceptive smokescreein to make the scheme appear legal. Ex. 1 at 77-79, 83-85, 94-95, 269-271, 276, 287-288, 398-416, 443 • Forms and maroketing lists used by Precision belonged to Precision. Ex. 1 at 128-29. l • Pohl nef iver told Lander to return the documents, which belonged to ladner. Ex. 1 at 133, 173-74 • The BP claimants were clients of Precision first. Ex. 1 at 214-215. • Pohl never told Ladner to keep the information confidential. Ex. 1 at 232-35, 264-65, 500-502 11 • Spreadsheets of claimants and pre-questionnaire forms belonged to Precision. Ex. 1 at 244-245, 262-263. • Pohl committed barratry. Ex. 1 at 274-280, 285-86 • Helping Hands and GM Verification signed up the claimants as their own clients. 444 C Additionally, Steve Seymour testified that Walker creaited claimant lists but Pohl never said the client lists were confidential. Ex. 2 ati 96-98, 147-149, 221-222. Walker testified that the marketing lists were Precission’s work product and so was the initial screening forming Precision had claimants compete. Ex. 3 at 232-33, 237-242. OBJECTIONS TO POHL’S EVIDENCE INl RESPONSE TO NO-EVIDENCE MSJ Because the Pohl DefendantsM use the same declaration to support their Response to the No-Evidence Motion for Summary Judgment, Defendants incorporate by reference all thie above-stated objections and assert them as to Pohl’s declaration attached to the No-Evidence Response as Exhibit A. EXHIBIT/DES o CRIPTION EXHIBIT/BASIS Exhibit BB – Omnibus Transcript Hearsay Exhibit D – Grcieivance documents Hearsay. Irrelevant because outcomes of f i grievance proceedings are not res o judicata in civil matters. See Charles v. Diggs, No. 14-19-00725-CV, 2020 Tex. App. LEXIS 8502, at *5 (Tex. App.— Houston [14th Dist.] Oct. 29, 2020, pet. denied) (client’s claim against lawyer was not precluded by dismissal of grievance because “the disciplinary rules do not set the standard for civil liability”); TEX. RULES DISCIPLINARY P. R. 12 17.03 (“Neither the Complainant nor the Respondent is affected by the doctrines of res judicata or estoppel by judgment from any Disciplinary Action.”). Exhibit S – Zavitsanos Report Hearsay, unsworn. Exhibit T – Pohl Deposition at 115-116 Hearsay regarding what third-parties allegedly told Nicholson. Also, Pohl’s testimony was nonresponsive. Exhibit Y – Pohl Declaration ¶ 4 Conclusory. Improiper lay or expert opinion on legal sitssues for which Pohl is not properly Dquialified or designated to provide testimony on. Unsupported by factual or slegal basis. More specifically, Pohl’s statements that he is a rightful owner of the information, that the information is a “trade secret,” and that he has a possessory and ownership interest in the information are lconclusory without any supporting basis. ¶¶ 5, 6 Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to  who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so this interested-witness testimony from Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as i required by Rule 166a(c). Unsupported O by factual or legal basis. Hearsay as to  what Ladner – who is not a party to this p case – stated. ¶ 7 Conclusory. Hearsay. Vague and a l ambiguous as to who at “Precision” Pohl c i is referring to, so this interested-witness f i testimony from Pohl is not “clear, o positive and direct” as required by Rule 166a(c). Pohl’s statement about what “appears” to have occurred is not competent summary judgment evidence, and his statement about a barratry scheme is conclusory and unsupported by factual or legal basis. Moreover, not designated to opine on issue of legal ¶ 8 title. 13 ¶ 9 Conclusory. Vague and ambiguous as to who at “Precision” Pohl is referring to, so this interested-witness testimony from Pohl is not “clear, positive and direct” as required by Rule 166a(c). Unsupported by factual or legal basis. e ¶¶ 10, 13, 14 Not designated as an expert on damages, and his damages topines are conclusory, speculative, unireliable, and lack any factual support. ¶ 11 Conclusoery CONCLUSION & PRAYER For the foregoing reasons, the Court should sustain these objections to Pohl’s summary judgment evidence. With the aobjections sustained, the Court should grant Kassab’s request for traditional and no-evidence summary judgment and order that Pohl take nothing his claims against Kassab. O Respectfully submitted, p THE KASSAB LAW FIRM /s/ David Eric Kassab l DAVID ERIC KASSAB i Texas State Bar No. 24071351 i david@kassab.law o LANCE CHRISTOPHER KASSAB Texas State Bar No. 00794070 lance@kassab.law NICHOLAS R. PIERCE Texas State Bar No. 24098263 nicholas@kassab.law 1214 Elgin Street Houston, Texas 77004 Telephone: 713-522-7400 14 Facsimile: 713-522-7410 E-Service: eserve@kassab.law ATTORNEYS FOR KASSAB DEFENDANTS THOMPSON, COE, COUSINS & IRONS, LLP By: /s/ Andrew L. Johneson Andrew L. Johnson C State Bar No.: 24060025 Zandra E. Foley State Bar No.: 2t4032085 Benjamin S. Riitz State Bar No.: 24096147 One Riverway, Suite 1400 Houstoen, Texas 77056 (713) 403-8210 – Telephone (71u3) 403-8299 – Facsimile ajohnson@thompsoncoe.com zfoley@thompsoncoe.com lbritz@thompsoncoe.com ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANTS TINA NICHOLSON AND BAKER fNICHOLSON, LLP OCERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I certify that onp this date, September 19, 2022, I electronically filed this document with the Clerk of the Court using the eFile.TXCourts.gov electronic filing system which will send notification of such filing to all parties or counsel of record. f /s/ David Eric Kassab DAVID ERIC KASSAB 15 Automated Certificate of eService This automated certificate of service was created by the efiling system. The filer served this document via email generated by the efiling system on the date and to the persons listed below. The rules governing certificates of service have not changed. Filers must still provide a certificate of service that complies with all applicable rules. David Kassab e Bar No. 24071351 C david@kassab.law t Envelope ID: 68367189 r Status as of 9/19/2022 8:41 AM CST Case Contacts Name BarNumber Email sTimestampSubmitted Status Solace Southwick ssouthwick@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Zandra EFoley zfoley@thompsoncoe.com r 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Andrew Johnson ajohnson@thompsoncoe.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Andrew J. Sarne asarne@krcl.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Benjamin Ritz britz@thompsoncoe.conm 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Kathryn Laflin KLaflin@KRCL.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Dale Jefferson 10607900 jefferson@mdjwlarw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Raul Herman Suazo 24003021 suazo@mdjwlaw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Kevin Graham Cain 24012371 cain@mdjwlaw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Larry Newsom lnewsom@fkrcl.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Jason M.Ciofalo jason@ciofalolaw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Chris C.Pappas cpappas@krcl.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Todd Taylor titaylor@jandflaw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Misty Davis fmdavis@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Non-Party Witness Billy Shepherd bshepherd@spcounsel.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Deidre Hicks y GWS_GROUP@spcounsel.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Harris Wells hwells@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Jean C.Frizzell C jfrizzell@reynoldsfrizzell.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Todd Taylor  ttaylor@jandflaw.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Lawyer Wade a lawyerwade@hotmail.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Scott M.Favre c scott@favrepa.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Andrea Mendez f i andrea@kassab.law 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Lance Kassab o lance@kassab.law 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT David Kassab david@kassab.law 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Nicholas Pierce nicholas@kassab.law 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Murray Fogler mfogler@fbfog.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Murray J. Fogler 7207300 mfogler@foglerbrar.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Katie Budinsky kbudinsky@krcl.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM ERROR E. MarieJamison jamison@wrightclosebarger.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT Jessica Z.Barger barger@wrightclosebarger.com 9/19/2022 8:16:53 AM SENT" 10,2018-11-05,OBJ,Kassab,Objections to Pohl’s TCPA response evidence,Kassab's Objections to Plaintiffs' Response Evidence and Reply in Support of TCPA Motion to Dismiss,"Filed November 5, 2018 as a combined objection and reply brief in further support of Kassab's TCPA Motion to Dismiss. Responds to Pohl's November 1, 2018 opposition, challenging the admissibility of Pohl's evidence and arguing the commercial speech exception does not apply. Filed in Cause No. 2018-58419, 189th Judicial District Court, Harris County, Texas. Addressed to the Honorable Judge Bill Burke.",TCPA-1,N/A,Phase 1,2018-11-05_OBJ_Kassab-Objections-to-Pohl-Response_FILED.pdf,Grant the TCPA Motion to Dismiss; strike Shepherd affidavit and all attached documents; strike Pohl's declaration paragraphs 3-9; order Plaintiffs take nothing; award reasonable and necessary attorney's fees and costs as required by the statute,"11/5/2018 8:03 AM Chris Daniel - District Clerk Harris County Envelope No. 28779207 By: Deandra Mosley Filed: 11/5/2018 8:03 AM CAUSE NO. 2018-58419 MICHAEL A. POHL, et al § IN THE DISTRICT COURT V. § OF HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS SCOTT FAVRE, et al § 189th JUDICIAkL DISTRICT THE KASSAB DEFENDANTS’ OBJECTIONS TO PLAINTlIFFS’ RESPONSE AND REPLY IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO DISMISS TO THE HONORABLE JUDGE BILL BURKE: r Defendants/Counter-Plaintiffs Lance Christopher Kassab Dand Lance Christopher Kassab, P.C. d/b/a/ The Kassab Law Firm (“Kassab”) file this reply asnd objections in further support of their Motion to Dismiss Pursuant to the Texas Citizens Parrticipation Act. OBJECTIONS A. Plaintiffs’ Exhibit A (Affidavait of Billy Shepherd) Kassab objects to Plaintiffs’ Exhibit A, the alleged affidavit of Billy Shepherd (“Shepherd”) and all exhibits attacheed thereto. Specifically, Shepherd’s affidavit fails as an affidavit on its face because itf is not based upon “personal knowledge” or state that the statements therein are “true yand correct”, thus perjury does not attach, and therefore, the alleged affidavit is nothing moCre than a statement by Pohl’s “interested” counsel. An affidavit must be based on the affianta’s personal knowledge and must state that the facts in it are true. Humphreys v. Caldwell, 88 8f S.W.2d 469, 470 (Tex. 1994); see TEX. R. EVID. 602 (evidence must show the witness hUas personal knowledge); Radio Station KSCS v. Jennings, 750, S.W.2d 760, 761-62 (Tex. 1988). An affidavit must contain direct and unequivocal statements that, if false, would be grounds for perjury. Burke v. Satterfield, 525 S.W.2d 950, 955 (Tex. 1975); Hall v. Stephenson, 919 S.W.2d 454, 466 (Tex. App.—Fort Worth 1996, writ denied). Additionally, Shepherd’s statement appears to attempt to prove up business records, but this attempt fails. To introduce a business record through a witness, a party must prove the following: (1) the record is a memorandum, report, other compilation of data; (2) the witness is the custodian or another qualified witness; (3) the record was made from informaktion transmitted by a person with knowledge of the facts; (4) the record was made at or near thle time of the acts, events, conditions, opinions, or diagnoses appearing on it; (5) the recordc was made as part of the regular practice of that business activity; and (6) the record was kepst in the course of a regularly conducted business activity. See TEX. R. EVID. 101 (h)(4), 803 (6)(A)-(6)(D); Freeman v. American Motorists Ins., 53 S.W.3d 710, 715 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2001 no pet.). The alleged affidavit fails in all respects. The alleged affidavit also fails to conform with Texas Rules of Evidence, 902 (10), and therefore, fails to establish the exhibits as baus r iness records.1 Specifically, the alleged affidavit fails to adequately show that Shepherd is the custodian of records or otherwise establish how he knows what each particular documeent is other than he is a lawyer for Pohl. This does not establish the requisite “knowledgfe.” See id. Therefore, the documents attached as exhibits are nothing more than hearsay yupon hearsay. TEX. R. EVID. 902 (10). Moreover, Shepherd has failed to provide the Crequisite notice of his filing. Id. For these reasons, the “affidavit” of Shepherd and all doacuments attached must be struck from the record. B. Pflaintiffs’ Exhibit B (Declaration of Michael A. Pohl). KUassab objects to Plaintiffs’ Exhibit B, the sworn declaration of Michael A. Pohl, Paragraphs 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. The statements contained in this declaration are conclusory and constitute no evidence at all. Conclusory affidavits do not raise fact issues and are incompetent evidence as a matter of law. Ryland Group, Inc. v. Hood, 924 S.W.2d 120, 122 (Tex. 1996); 1 Response, at Exhibit A. Stephens v. Precision Drilling Oilfield Servs. Corp., No. 01-11-00326-CV, 2013 Tex. App. LEXIS 5700, 2013 WL 1928797, at *19 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] May 9, 2013, no pet.) (mem. op.). “A conclusory statement is one that does not provide the underlying facts to support the conclusion.” Dolcefino v. Randolph, 19 S.W.3d 906, 930 (Tex. App. – Houskton [14th Dist.] 2000, pet. denied). Moreover, an affidavit is conclusory when it expresses “la factual inference without stating the underlying facts on which the inference is based.” E.Ic. du Pont de Nemours & Co. v. Shell Oil Co., 259 S.W.3d 800, 809 (Tex. App.—Houston [1sts Dist.] 2007, pet. denied). Pohl’s declaration consists of nothing but conclusory statements. Kassab objects to Paragraph 3, which states: “I was and am the rightful owner of the confidential, privileged and trade secrete information that Kassab obtained from Scott Favre and Tina Nicholson on which this suit is based.”2 This statement is conclusory because Pohl fails to describe what the purported confidential information or trade seacrets are or explain how he is the rightful owner of this information as opposed to Scott Favre or his entities who have claimed to be the owner of the marketing lists provided to Kassaeb. Moreover, Pohl fails to explain how the information even constitutes a trade secret. See Gafme Sys. v. Forbes Hutton Leasing, Inc., No. 02-09-00051-CV, 2011 Tex. App. LEXIS 4098y, at *76 (Tex. App. – Fort Worth, May 26, 2011, no pet.) (mem. op.) (statement that the softCware “constitutes a trade secret” was conclusory and not proper evidence). Kassab objeacts to Paragraph 4 which states, “I did not provide consent for Kassab to exercise dominifon and control over the property, and his exercise of that dominion and control is wrongfulU.”3 Pohl does not provide any factual support for this statement or explain why Kassab’s exercise and control over lists he obtained rightfully from Favre or his counsel is wrongful. See 2 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 3. 3 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 4. McCollum v. Bank of N.Y. Mellon Tr. Co., 481 S.W.3d 352, 362 (Tex. App.—El Paso 2015, no pet.) (conclusory statements in affidavit that conduct is “allegedly wrongful” is insufficient to raise fact issue that conduct alleged is in fact wrongful). Kassab objects to Paragraph 5 which states, “I have incurred damagesk as a result of Kassab’s conversion of my property, through at the very least, by thel exposure of the confidential materials and information, which results in a loss of the cintrinsic value to me as trade secrets and confidential materials.”4 Again, Pohl does not prosvide any factual support for the conclusion that he had been damaged. Pohl does not state what the alleged trade secrets or confidential materials are or explain how he is allegedly damaged by Kassab’s alleged misappropriation of the material. See Celtic Props., L.C. v. Cleveland Reg'l Med. Ctr., L.P., No. 09-13-00464-CV, 2015 Tex. App. LEXIS 8051, 2015 WL 4600661, at *3 (Tex. App.— Beaumont July 31, 2015, no pet.) (mem. op.)a (statement that property was “damaged” as a result of defendant’s conduct was insufficient as a matter of law); Chapa v. Stonehaven Dev., Inc., No. 13-13-00030-CV, 2013 Tex. App. LeEXIS 10159, at *9 (Tex. App. – Corpus Christi, Aug. 15, 2013, no pet.) (mem. op.) (statefment “we lost the profits we would have made” is conclusory because it provides no undeyrlying facts to support the conclusion); see also Fraud-Tech, Inc. v. Choicepoint, Inc., No.C 02-05-150-CV, 2006 Tex. App. LEXIS 3181, 2006 WL 1030189, at *5 (Tex. App.—Fort Waorth Apr. 20, 2006, no pet.) (mem. op.) (finding affidavit testimony that appellants weref damaged because of the alleged conversion conclusory when affiant did “not supply faUcts underlying its conclusions”). Kassab objects to Paragraph 6 which states “Before they were stolen, I took substantial measures to maintain the materials and information that Kassab obtained from Scott Favre and 4 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 5. Tina Nicholson as confidential and protected them as valuable trade secrets. I strictly limited access to them and by maintaining physical copies under lock and key.”5 These statements are conclusory. Pohl does not describe what “substantial” measures he allegedly took to maintain information obtained by Kassab, what the information obtained by Kassab even kis, or state how the information obtained by Kassab is allegedly a “valuable trade secret.” Polhl makes no effort to describe how he “strictly limited” access to his alleged confidential icnformation given that it freely ended up in the hands of Favre, who claimed ownerships of the marketing material provided to Kassab.  Kassab objects to Paragraph 7 which states, “The stolen materials and information have independent economic value from not being generally known to, and not readily being ascertainable through proper means by, another person who can obtain economic value from the disclosure or use of the information.”6 This staat r ement is conclusory as Pohl does not provide any facts to support this statement. Pohl does not describe how any materials were purportedly stolen, what the materials even are, ehow the materials are not known to the general public, or how the materials allegedly provifde economic value to Pohl. Kassab objects to pyaragraph 8 which states “Kassab’s misappropriation of my trade secrets has caused meC damages in both the form of actual loss of the value of my confidential materials and of unajust enrichment to Kassab as a result of his wrongful misappropriation.”7 This statement is confclusory. Pohl provides no facts to explain how Kassab allegedly misappropriated the tradeU secrets, how the information even constitutes a trade secret, or how the loss of the 5 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 6. 6 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 7. 7 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 8. information allegedly caused Pohl damages or unjustly enriched Kassab. See Plas-Tex, Inc. v. Jones, NO. 03-99-00286-CV, 2000 Tex. App. LEXIS 3188, at *18 (Tex. App. – Austin, May 18, 2000, pet. denied) (mem. op.) (“conclusory statements regarding the value of intangible assets such as unidentified trade secrets” was insufficient to support claim of damages)k. The purported loss to Pohl of any alleged misappropriation of trade secrets is also speculativel. Finally, Kassab objects to Paragraph 9 which states “In the sacme ways that Kassab’s conversion and misappropriation of my confidential information injusred me, I was injured by the conspiracy to commit those torts.”8 This is a conclusory statement within a conclusory statement. Pohl does not describe the purported conversion or misappropriation and makes no effort to provide any facts supporting the alleged conspiracy claims. This statement is insufficient as a matter of law. See Methodist Hosp. v. Zurich Am. Ins. Co., 329 S.W.3d 510, 530 (Tex. App.— Houston [14th Dist.] 2009, pet. denied) (caoncluding that affiant’s “bare assertion” that the conduct of the opposing party was the “causal connection” of its damages was conclusory and “substantively defective” and nothinge more than affiant’s subjective opinion). f II REPLY A. Any documentation that Kassab obtained from Favre and/or his counselC, Tina Nicholson come from Precision, not Pohl. Pohl arguesa that Kassab converted and stole his files. However, the evidence is clear that any documents fKassab obtained from Favre or Nicholson came into Favre’s possession when he purchasedU Precision Marketing Group. Precision owned the documents, not Pohl. Even assuming arguendo that the documents were somehow part of Pohl’s legal files, which Kassab 8 Response, Exhibit B, ¶ 9. denies, Pohl still would not own the files because those files would belong to the client. Texas Rule of Professional Conduct, 1.15 (d) specifically provides: Upon termination of representation, a lawyer shall take steps to the extent reasonably practicable to protect a client’s interests, such as giving reasonable notice to the client, allowing time for employment of other counsel, surrenkdering papers and property to which the client is entitled and refunding anyr advance payments of fee that has not been earned. The lawyer may retain paplers relating to the client to the extent permitted by other law only if such retention will not prejudice the client in the subject matter of the representation. c TEX. DISCIPLINARY R. PROF’L. CONDUCT 1.15 (d) (emphasis added).s The Rule cited above is clear and concise. Moreover, the courts enforcing this Rule are clear and unambiguous. The Texas Supreme Court has stated, “The attorney is the agent of the client, and the work product generated by the attorney in representing the client belongs to the client.” In Re Kenneth George-consolidated with- In Re Epic Holdings, Inc., 28 S.W.3d 511, 516 (Tex. 2000); see also Hebisen v. State, 6a15 r S.W.2d 866, 868 (Tex. Civ. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 1981, no writ). Moreover, everything in the entire file having to do with a clients’ representation, i.e. attorney notes, elegal memoranda, etc., etc., etc. belongs to the client. Resolution Trust Corp. v. H--, Pf.C., 128 FRD 647, (N.D. Tex. 1989) (holding that the attorney may retain a copy of the filey at the attorney’s expense, however, the original file belongs to the client); Nolan v. FCoreman, 665 F.2d 738, reh’g denied, 671 F.2d 1380 (5th Cir. 1982). Furthermorea, the contents of a client’s file must be turned over to the client promptly upon request. Hfebisen, 615 S.W.2d at 868. The failure to do so is willful and malicious, and constituteUs dishonorable conduct. Smith v. State, 490 S.W.2d 902, 909 (Tex. Civ. App.— Corpus Christi 1972, writ ref’d, n.r.e.). Retention of documents is only permitted to secure a debt if and only if such retention will not prejudice the client in the subject matter of the representation. Smith, 490 S.W.2d at 910; TEX. DISCIPLINARY R. PROF’L. CONDUCT 1.15 (d). Therefore, Pohl lacks standing to sue Kassab for conversion or theft of trade secrets because Pohl never owned any of the subject documents. B. The commercial exception does not apply. Pohl argues in his response that the TCPA does not apply to this case bekcause this case falls under the statutory exemption for commercial speech found in sectioln 27.010(b). This section states: c [The TCPA] does not apply to a legal action brought againsst a person primarily engaged in the business of selling or leasing goods or servDices, if the statement or conduct arises out of the sale or lease of goods, services, or an insurance product, insurance services, or a commercial transaction in whisch the intended audience is an actual or potential buyer or customer. TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 27.010(b). “The par ty asserting the exemption bears the burden of proving its applicability.” See Castleman v. Internet Money Ltd., 546 S.W.3d 684, 688 (Tex. 2018); Schimmel v. McGregor, 438 S.W.3d 8a47, 857 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2014, pet. denied).  Pohl contends that that his ceonversion and theft of trade secrets claims fall within this exemption because (1) Kassab wfas primarily engaged in the business of selling legal services; (2) the claims against Kassayb arose from Kassab’s conduct in allegedly purchasing Pohl’s list of clients and former clCients for the purpose of soliciting those clients; (3) Kassab’s conduct occurred in the coaurse of delivering his legal services; and (4) the intended audience of his conduct was a pfotential buyer, the clients.9 This is not accurate. InU determining whether some of Pohl’s claims fall within the commercial-speech exemption, the Court must examine the evidence, which in this case consists of Pohl’s own pleadings. See TEX. CIV. PRAC. & REM. CODE § 27.006. Pohl alleges that Favre and his counsel 9 Response, p. 11. stole from him information about his clients and prospective clients and “secretly sold Pohl’s stolen confidential information and property to Kassab” and that Kassab “knew that the information and property that [he was] purchasing was stolen and not Favre’s and/or [his counsel’s] to sell.”10 Pohl alleges that “Using the stolen confidential informatiokn and property that he knowingly purchased, Kassab solicited those clients/prospective clientsl to act as plaintiffs … to bring cases against Pohl for alleged barratry and other claims.”11 Pco t hl does not allege that the agreement between Kassab and Favre effectuated a sale of legasl services or that any of the conduct for which he sues Kassab arises out of the sale of services that Kassab is “primarily engaged” in. “The exemption expressly provides that the TCPA does not apply to a legal action brought against a person primarily engaged in the business of selling or leasing goods or services, but only if the statement or conducat arises out of the sale or lease of goods, services, or an insurance product, insurance services, or a commercial transaction.” Castleman, 546 S.W.3d at 688 (emphasis added) (inteernal quotations omitted). The Texas Supreme Court opined in Castleman that the exception fcan only apply when “(1) the defendant was primarily engaged in the business of selling ory leasing goods, (2) the defendant made the statement or engaged in the conduct on which Cthe claim is based in the defendant's capacity as a seller or lessor of those goods or services, a(3) the statement or conduct at issue arose out of a commercial transaction involving the kifnd of goods or services the defendant provides, and (4) the intended audience of the statemUent or conduct were actual or potential customers of the defendant for the kind of goods or services the defendant provides. Id. Pohl has failed to prove establish each of these elements. 10 Plaintiffs’ Original Petition, ¶ 21. 11 Plaintiffs’ Original Petition, ¶ 22. More specifically, even if the alleged conduct at issue (i.e., conduct amounting to conversion or theft of trade secretes) “arose out of” Kassab’s alleged theft of trade secrets or conversion of files, as Pohl alleges, Pohl has nevertheless failed to establish that this type of conduct is a “commercial transaction involving” legal services or any other type kof services that Kassab is primarily engaged in. See id. In other words, Pohl has not establlished that Kassab “engaged in the conduct on which the claim is based in the defendant'cs capacity as a seller or lessor of those goods or services.” Id. Stated another way, Kassab sis not primarily engaged in purchasing marketing lists and client files, which is the business which Pohl alleges these claims arise. Similarly, with respect to the fourth element of the commercial exception, Pohl has failed to demonstrate that the intended audience of Kassab’s alleged conduct (i.e., the conversion and theft of trade secrets) were actual or potential customers of Kassab for the kind of goods or services that Kassab is “primarily engaged” ina. See id. Consequently, Pohl has therefore failed to establish that his conversion and theft of trade secret claims fall within the commercial-speech exemption. e f III CONCLUSION & PRAYER For the reasons set forth herein and in the initial motion, Defendants/Counter-Plaintiffs Lance Christopher Kassab and The Kassab Law Firm respectfully request the Court to grant this Motion to Dismiscs Pursuant to the Texas Citizens Participation Act and order that Plaintiffs take nothing in their claims against Lance Christopher Kassab and The Kassab Law Firm and award reasonable and necessary attorney’s fees and costs as required by the statute. 10 Respectfully submitted, THE KASSAB LAW FIRM / s / Lance Christopher Kassab LANCE CHRISTOPHER KASSAB Texas State Bar No. 0079407k0 lance@kassab.law r DAVID ERIC KASSAB Texas State Bar No. 24071351 david@kassab.law c 1214 Elgin Street r Houston, Texas s77004 Telephone: 71D3.522.7400 Facsimile: 713.522.7410 ATTORNEYS FOR LANCE CHRISTOPHER KASSAB rAND THE KASSAB LAW FIRM CERTIFICAaTE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that a true and correct copy of the above and foregoing instrument has been forwarded to all parties pursuant too the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure on this the 5th day of November, 2018. e f / s / Lance Christopher Kassab Lance Christopher Kassab 11"